Stanford PSD-28 vs. PSD-21. Can U guess which is which?

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intune66	Stanford PSD-28 vs. PSD-21. Can U guess which is which?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 2219 (05/13/09 12:53 AM) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None A bunch of short clips I put together. The same guitar is first in every clip (consistent) so as not to cause confusion. This is the "Hog" Stanford PSD-21 and the EIR PSD-28. I put these together in a way that you can't see the back and/ or sides (a dead giveaway). Both have that excellent signature tone, but different by comparison. I tuned both to standard pitch (440) for this one...... I'll reveal which is the 21 and which is the 28 later in the thread. Any idea??? Preferences of one over the other tonally? BTW the last clip gets cut off before you can hear the second guitar. Oh well........ LINK.......� http://s537.photobucket.c...1vs28.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1 Ryan _____________________ Some of my Guitars: Stanford PSD-28, 21, 20 Blueridge BR-70, 60-AS Aria AD-80, R.K. RDC-57
Ranger1964		#1	[-]
Posts: 231 (05/13/09 02:27 AM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I say the mahogany is first in each clip. Sole resident of The Island of Misfit Players Three Chords and a Wish
dmcowles		#2	[-]
Posts: 2811 (05/13/09 02:59 AM) Admin More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I agree with Roy on this. You forget it and I'll forget it, but I'll remember it, and don't you forget it!
davis		#3	[-]
Posts: 61 (05/13/09 03:27 AM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I, unfortunately, don't have enough experience in comparing the two woods, but while I was listening to the clips and thinking about all the things I've read about the tonal differences, I was thinking that the first guitar would have to be the mahogany. So, I side with Roy and Dave. They both sound very nice and you did a great job with the comparison playing.
pugsleydorite.theunofficialma...		#4	[-]
Posts: 81 (05/13/09 05:58 AM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ryan, I am thinking that #1 is the 21. I like the overall tone of the first guitar. Both sound great and sound suprisingly close in tone.
lanaki		#5	[-]
Posts: 33 (05/13/09 07:43 AM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	mahalo for this nice comparison clip, ryan. i've got to agree with the gentlemen above. to my ears and through my computer headphones, the first guitar has slightly clearer string definition while the second guitar is warmer overall. first guitar is the hog. they both sound excellent.
davis		#6	[-]
Posts: 62 (05/13/09 08:37 AM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I agree with lanaki on the string definition/clarity thing... I thought the same thing. I thought I could hear more overtones with the second guitar.
intune66		#7	[-]
Posts: 2220 (05/13/09 08:46 AM) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	davis wrote: I agree with lanaki on the string definition/clarity thing... I thought the same thing. I thought I could hear more overtones with the second guitar. Those are good assessments. I hear that as well on some of the song riffs. Unanimous vote so far. Who'd of thought it? Glad you guys can hear a noticeable difference in the 2 gits. I thought it might all end up sounding the same on both guitars, and tough to make a clear decision. Ryan _____________________ Some of my Guitars: Stanford PSD-28, 21, 20 Blueridge BR-70, 60-AS Aria AD-80, R.K. RDC-57 Last Edited By: intune66 05/13/09 10:05 AM. Edited 1 times.
davis		#8	[-]
Posts: 63 (05/13/09 09:53 AM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	what's cool for me is that I can hear the difference. Like I said earlier, I don't have experience playing either woods, let alone comparing side by side... I've always had a laminated box. I'm hoping guitar numero uno is the hog, cuz I like the sound of that one just a itsy bitsy teeny weeny bit better.
Fstpicker		#9	[-]
Posts: 720 (05/13/09 04:14 PM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I like the first one better. I thought it was the 28. Jeff Last Edited By: Fstpicker 05/13/09 04:18 PM. Edited 1 times.
lanaki		#10	[-]
Posts: 39 (05/13/09 05:32 PM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	on some of the tunes i prefer the sound of the first guitar and vice versa. the differences are mostly subtle. the second guitar has a warmer bass response from where i sit.
intune66		#11	[-]
Posts: 2223 (05/13/09 06:15 PM) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	lanaki wrote: on some of the tunes i prefer the sound of the first guitar and vice versa. the differences are mostly subtle. the second guitar has a warmer bass response from where i sit. I agree with that assessment as well, which is interesting. Kind of goes along with the ideal often stated differences between mahogany and rosewood back and sides. Ryan _____________________ Some of my Guitars: Stanford PSD-28, 21, 20 Blueridge BR-70, 60-AS Aria AD-80, R.K. RDC-57
Fstpicker		#12	[-]
Posts: 721 (05/13/09 06:36 PM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	So, I gather the first one was the 21? Jeff
woodruff		#13	[-]
Posts: 162 (05/13/09 07:05 PM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i cant really tell a difference. they both sounds great. the 2nd sounds like my 712 but bigger. woody 1995 Taylor 712 2007 Woolson Soundcraft LG 1994 Taylor 612c-wife's
sixiron150		#14	[-]
Posts: 119 (05/13/09 07:11 PM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well, since everyone else has picked guitar #1 as the PSD-21, I'll go ahead and say that the 21 is guitar #2. 50/50 chance right (unless Ryan messed with us all and played the same guitar each time). In the family: Stanford PSD-21 Martin 000-15 Fender DG100 ________________ Time flies... except on a treadmill.
intune66		#15	[-]
Posts: 2224 (05/13/09 09:51 PM) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	sixiron150 wrote: Well, since everyone else has picked guitar #1 as the PSD-21, I'll go ahead and say that the 21 is guitar #2. 50/50 chance right (unless Ryan messed with us all and played the same guitar each time). NOPE! Those are 2 different guitars. Note the slightly darker top on the one that is always played first. Might be kinda tough to tell but I can see it. Imagine if I had put brand new strings on both of these like I should have? One has Elixirs that are a few months old. The other has uncoated strings that are a few weeks old. I figured it would even things out . I know! I'm nuts! Never said I wasn't....... Ryan _____________________ Some of my Guitars: Stanford PSD-28, 21, 20 Blueridge BR-70, 60-AS Aria AD-80, R.K. RDC-57
lanaki		#16	[-]
Posts: 40 (05/13/09 10:44 PM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	intune66 wrote: ...One has Elixirs that are a few months old. The other has uncoated strings that are a few weeks old. I figured it would even things out... yep, you're right. Last Edited By: lanaki 05/13/09 10:48 PM. Edited 1 times.
Pappy		#17	[-]
Posts: 592 (05/14/09 05:10 AM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Absolutely agree with lanaki's comments. This also bolsters the argument (esprcially for us married guys) that we need at LEAST one of each type. Overall I like the first one a bit better, and I assume that was the mahogony. So many guitars....So little time. So many taxes......So few guitars
intune66		#18	[-]
Posts: 2230 (05/14/09 07:59 AM) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Pappy wrote: Absolutely agree with lanaki's comments. This also bolsters the argument (esprcially for us married guys) that we need at LEAST one of each type. Overall I like the first one a bit better, and I assume that was the mahogony. Pappy....... Everyone should have one of each Stanford (married or not). Ryan _____________________ Some of my Guitars: Stanford PSD-28, 21, 20 Blueridge BR-70, 60-AS Aria AD-80, R.K. RDC-57
davis		#19	[-]
Posts: 67 (05/14/09 02:24 PM) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	ok, so this GAS thing???? what the heck...?? I'm finding myself in the for sale or trade section a lot!! Some intangible part of me is trying to talk myself into a rosewood guitar... uuhhhhh... kinda like the BR160-A2 that's for sale...
dmcowles		#20	[-]
Posts: 2818 (05/14/09 02:48 PM) Admin More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	davis wrote: ok, so this GAS thing???? what the heck...?? I'm finding myself in the for sale or trade section a lot!! Some intangible part of me is trying to talk myself into a rosewood guitar... uuhhhhh... kinda like the BR160-A2 that's for sale... Uh oh. I hope Mrs. Dave isn't paying a lot of attention.... You forget it and I'll forget it, but I'll remember it, and don't you forget it!

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